I have not posted for more than a month. During this period, I managed to pick up two Orient M-Force divers. One of them is the orange dial EL03002M which I have posted when it was released in 2011. The other one is the 2012 model known as “The Beast”.
Here’s a quick look at the Beast.
Dial
I chose the black dial variant because it is easier to get straps for the watch since black goes well with a variety of colours.
The dial is pretty legible because of the big hour markers as well as the hour and minute hands. Especially like the big 12 o’clock marker.
Case/Bezel
A very well made case with crown at the nine o’clock position protected by a pair big crown guards. The other side of the case is also thickened to create a more balanced case.
The bezel rotates in anti-clockwise direction, making 120 clicks per round. This is an improvement over the 2011 model which makes 60 clicks per round.
Crown
Screw in crown signed with Orient’s logo. Overall, it does it job of providing good grip when handwinding the watch. Picture below shows the crown at second click position.
Caseback
The caseback is similar to that of the previous model. As a diver watch, I thought it would be nice to have a symbol such as a dolphin,tsunami or something related to diving on it.
Bracelet
The watch comes with a nice bracelet and it is worth mentioning that it has thick spring bars and solid end links. Please refer to the pictures below.
Diameter: 47mm
Thickness: 13.3mm
Lug width: 24mm
Its a pity that Orient didn’t made the logo on the screw-in crown ‘aligned’ when in fully-tightened position… And also is the lock-clasp a bit ‘loose’ when in locked position? It was ‘loose’ as the last year model did, and so was the GMT I’ve bought… *was a little bit disappointed though…
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I don’t use the bracelet but I thought the push button lock is pretty tight. It even has a catch to secure it.
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I think it should be the catch securing the clasp that I’m mentioning, not the push-button lock… thks…
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You mean the catch is loose? Maybe you should bring it to Big Time and let them have a look.
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I did pointed out when inspecting the watch, and even mentioned Seiko’s watches for comparison… But it seems that most/all of Orient watches I checked is the same… One of the M-Force watch face even moves as I unscrewed and pulled out the crown–which of course I had rejected to Irene…
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Haha … you are not the only one who notice the dial moves slightly when pushing out or pushing in the crown. I think this is an issue with both M-force models.
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huh? a common problem? even aft discount its stil $500+++ for such quality? luckily the one i finally selected doesn’t has this problem… even Irene cant noticed it when i showed her…
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Someone made a similar comment here:
http://yeomanorient.wordpress.com/2012/03/25/new-orient-watches-at-big-time-24-mar-2012/
I have seen it myself.
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wow… guess my eyes r sharp enough huh…
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It is quite easy to see the dial move when you pull out or push in the crown. You can even feel it on severe cases.
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By the way, I would love to see both models on comparison… Thanks…
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Will take a picture when I have the time.
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Thanks…
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very nice and huge watch..i found some comments online about the bezel feel like plastic. is it true?
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It’s glossy black but doesn’t feel like plastic.
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ok thanks. im thinking to pull my trigger on either this one or the old 2011 model…its hard for me to make a decision between this two. what do you think? thomas, do you own these two models? or may be you can give me some suggestions. thanks
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I have both and I prefer the 2012 model. It has a nicer dial design. The hands and hour markers are bigger. Both do not have conventional diver bezel but the 2012 model has a nicer bezel over the 2011 model. It’s 120 clicks per round too. If you use the bracelet, the 2012 model has solid end links.
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ok thanks
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what is the different between WV0071EL and EL06001B ? they look totally same and both are made in japan. but WV0071EL was more expensive..
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I think they are the same watch. Orient Japan uses a different model number.
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Hi Yeoman. Can you describe how the lume is on Orient Watches. Are they
Similar to Seiko watches in this respect? My Sumo hold the lume till 5 am easily.,
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Not every Orient watch model has lume as bright as Seiko. The Orient 200m (revolver) and 300m divers have good lume comparable to Seiko. The M-Force divers also have pretty good lume. The rest are probably not as good.
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Hi, what is lug to lug length of the watch ? What watch is longer(lug to lug) – Seiko Sumo or this beast?
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Lug to Lug distance of this M-Force is 52.5mm. I think Sumo is 52mm.
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Interesting article. My 2011 M-Force bezel has 120 clicks. It is a JDM model. So is there a difference between JDM models and the other international models?
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Tony, I checked my 2011 M-Force again and found that it indeed has 120 clicks. However, the clicks don’t feel the same as the 2012 model. The 2012 model is much smoother and feels like the Seiko divers. Thanks for pointing it out. They don’t call you Orient Emperor for nothing. 🙂
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Could you give me the size of the dial please?
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Nice watch, could you tell me the diameter of the dial…Inside the bezel please.
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Will measure and let you know.
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thanks you
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Diameter of dial is 28mm. Inclusive of chapter ring is 32mm. Note that I measured these from the top of the crystal.
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In order to compare with mako XL, the crystal is 32mm, is it the same?
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Same crystal diameter but the Beast has a bigger case.
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Big watch , very nice finish & good value for $$
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That’s why Orient calls it “the beast”.
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Is that true that the lug width was 24mm, what size of nato band did you use in the picture?
Because the nato looks folded, the lug was to small?
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It’s 24mm. I bought a 24mm Isofrane strap and it fits the watch perfectly.
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Hi. I started collecting Orients and I do enjoy your watch reviews very much. Great pictures!
Anyway I am very attracted to get a Beast for myself and I am quite undecided between the EL06001H maroon dial and the EL06001D blue. Both are equally attractive to me! Of course I won’t get both and I suppose the blue dial would be more versatile in the long run but I am very drawn to the maroon one as it’s quite an unusual color. I know you got the black. Any advice? Lol.
Thanks for all the reviews and weblogs. Your posts and pictures certainly do Orient watches justice.
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I have both the black and maroon. Go for the maroon, it’s very eye catching.
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Hello Sir, EL06001H – maroon dial and the EL06001D – blue dial. what is the serial number of the black dial?
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I don’t collect Orient anymore. Try substituting H with B.
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Hi Thomas,
On the crown location at 9 O’Clock, does it troublesome to use it?. I’m right handed.
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Not a problem for me since I wear it on my left hand.
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Hi Thomas,
I just notice that in Thailand, it comes with a special edition box, including extra strap and removal tools.
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You sure what you saw was the regular edition Beast?
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Please see the link below on thailand website
http://taradnalika.tarad.com/product.detail_360275_th_4776194
And another local guy in Malaysia want to sell it off, have three pictures, on warranty card, there is thai words.
http://www.mudah.my/Orient+m+force+with+custom+made+box-22563818.htm
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Thanks for the info, Kevin. I think the custom box is done by the seller or distributor in Thailand. I would still go for the regular box version and save the extra money for a 24mm Isofrane or Bonneto Cinturini strap.
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hi Tom,
after long, sweaty and difficult negotiation, i finally got “the maroon beast” today.
he’s a killer, very tough but cool. like superman and myself….lol. but i have doubt, is it true that the bezel made from somekind of plastic?
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Congrats on your purchase. Bezel doesn’t feel like plastic to me.
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Hi Tom,
It’s an eye catching watch, indeed. Do you know if the measurement of the diameter of 47mm include or exclude the crown? Thank you.
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47mm does not include crown. Including crown would be close to 52mm.
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Thank you!
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Hi Yeoman,
I have the similar watch given as Xmas gift by a Malaysian friend. Unfortunately I have an issue woth this watch now. Brand new out of the box, it is ticking faster than actual time! It is running at more than 60 mins than actual time in 12 hours!
Where can I get help to get it fix? My watch is not from local dealer. Does orient international warranty helps ?
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Bring the watch to Big Time.
http://www.orient.com.sg/support
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KH, I think I met you on 27 Dec 2013 around 5:30pm at Big Time. Did you managed to get it serviced FOC? Big Time wanted to charge if the watch did not come from international AD.
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Hi pc4et, Bigtime has helped to verified that my watch is sold through authorised dealer in Malaysia and they are willing to process the warranty. Thanks to BT!
However I contacted the dealer in Malaysia and they were willing to do one-to-one exchange for me. Currently my watch is running at -32s since the last sync 3 weeks ago. Do you think I should send in to BT to regulate ?
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KH, since BT had processed the service of your “Beast” and it is running -32s for the past 3 weeks, you already got a watch with the accuarcy of less than -2 sec per day, right?
If it is really within 2 sec per day, you already got a very accurate automatic diver watch. My Beast is running at +8~16 sec per day and I am fine with it, as Orient specs is +25 to -15 sec per day.
But if it is -32s per day, you should sent it to BT to regulate.
🙂
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Hi Yeoman,
I started to like your dark green NATO strap, would mind letting me know where you got them? Any web link certainly be helpful. Thanks Again.
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I get them from a local watch shop. You can get them on eBay.
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Anyone know the size of the NATO nylon band/bracelet on that picture. Thank you
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